LOR question - letter not in yet, need help figuring out what to do

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drmike24
LOR question - letter not in yet, need help figuring out what to do

So, perhaps you all can help me clarify this. In order to be complete (at least at the majority of institutions, although I believe its institution specific), we need 3 letters, right? So here is my issue: I had three uro letters going for me, but my institution screwed up and now one of my letters has to go through ERAS, which I think will take a while. Therefore, I need to fill in one of those letters for the time being in order to be complete. However, as soon as that letter goes through ERAS, then I will have four. This would be OK except for the fact that I am planning on getting at least 1 more letter from my current AI. How would this work now? Would I not be able to submit that AI letter, since I've reached the max of 4? What are my options?Thanks in advancemike

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Yeah, that confuses me, too. My school uploads transcripts and letters to my ERAS post office and programs can download it from there.

Anonymous (not verified)
I don't understand when you

I don't understand when you state that one of your letters has to go through ERAS...dont all letters have to go through ERAS?

Anonymous (not verified)
LOR's

All of the programs have a minimum to their application requirements. Most programs require 3 letters, and some require 4.  There is no maximum letter limit, nor a penalty for submitting more than the minimum required.Don't freak out about having 4 letters when they only required 3. Programs are not going to care about the extra letter when you have met their requirements.Look at it this way, the letter could shed additional light about you, the unseen, unheard, unknown candidate to the people interviewing you.So then the next logical question is what if I have 5 letters? I don't think that really matters.  Why? Because if you have met the minimum, and if you seem like a good candidate on paper, then I really don't care if you have 3 or 5 letters. I may only read the first 3 and then disregard the rest, but one of my colleagues may read the other 2 and think you are a stellar candidate, which would mean you get an interview with us regardless.  So, what I'm trying to say is... lighten up. Take a deep breath in and relax. Think before you post on this site.  Around this time, all 4th year med students are such a pain in the ass.  You all are so stressed out about the littlest things and freak out when someone else may have an advantage, and then the back stabbing occurs on your rotations with us.  Also, then the ass kissing increases a thousand fold, and I hope you all know that we, as attendings, really love that (sarcasm).Words of advice:1. Read the application instructions/requirements for each program before assuming that they are all the same2. Be nice as you hound the attendings and their secretaries to complete your LORs3. Take EVERYTHING that you read on this site with a grain of salt.  Not everyone posting knows what they are talking about, and most people posting on here are in your situation (ie 4th year med student trying their darndest to get into Urology and would sacrifice their left nut for a guaranteed spot into a top tier program). This means that there is a lot of bulls**t floating around.  There are some of us posting on here that have been around the block and are now facing you all during interviews.  Believe me, I've heard it all and it never ceases to amaze me what kind of crap all you med students come up with.  Some of the advice is sound, but some of it is pure feces.4. Ignore all posters who keep on wondering why they hell they were cursed with getting 40 interview invitations, but can only make 20 because the interview dates are on the same date and they keep on asking for advice on whether they should take the Hopkins interview over the CCF interview or fly out on the redeye out of UCLA to make the Saturday interview at Mayo.5. Keep this experience in perspective. You all are going to be fine doctors.  Not all of you will make it into Urology...this year.  Some, not ever.  But on average 2/3 of you will match. But that should not stop you from giving your all and doing your best for your.....patients.  There. I've said it.  Remember why you all went into medicine in the first place, and it certainly was not because you wanted to make lots of money doing rectal exams and hearing old guys talk about how they can't pleasure their 20 year old girlfriend's and match their voracious sexual appetite.  6. Be nice. Good luck! This is a very exciting time for all of you. 

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Thanks for the above post.

Thanks for the above post. Solid advice. So is sending 5 letters via ERAS possible? And is it frowned upon by programs to send that many?I ask because currently I have 3 letters from my home institution uploaded to ERAS with 2 more to be added this month from my away rotations. However, when assigning LORs to certain programs, I left one of my home LORs off to make room for the 2 additional letters to be added for a total of 4. So for these programs I currently sit as having only 2 letters submitted, which apparently leaves me "incomplete" and ineligible for interview?Should I assign my 3rd home LOR to these programs for completeness and then simply have the two pending letters be added later?Thanks

drmike24
What I meant is

Anonymous User wrote:
I don't understand when you state that one of your letters has to go through ERAS...dont all letters have to go through ERAS?
They all have to go through ERAS. What I meant is that the third letter instead of being uploaded by my program into ERAS has to be submitted via ERAS, which I believe has to then scan it. By the way thanks for the above post, much appreciated. 

Anonymous (not verified)
Do programs not offer

Do programs not offer interviews/reject applicants based on how many letters are in?  For example, I have designated 4 letters for each school I have applied to, but so far only 2 letters have been received by my school and uploaded into ERAS.  Will schools that require 3 letters (which I assume is all) not offer an interview or reject applications in my case since 4 letter writers are designated but only 2 letters are uploaded?  I would think that schools know that letter writer's are knows to be late, especially this early (relatively) in the app process?  

frangeo27
Which programs REQUIRE 4

Which programs REQUIRE 4 letters? I haven't come across any that require them....

TexasTecher
Same ?

Anonymous User wrote:
Thanks for the above post. Solid advice. So is sending 5 letters via ERAS possible? And is it frowned upon by programs to send that many?I ask because currently I have 3 letters from my home institution uploaded to ERAS with 2 more to be added this month from my away rotations. However, when assigning LORs to certain programs, I left one of my home LORs off to make room for the 2 additional letters to be added for a total of 4. So for these programs I currently sit as having only 2 letters submitted, which apparently leaves me "incomplete" and ineligible for interview?Should I assign my 3rd home LOR to these programs for completeness and then simply have the two pending letters be added later?Thanks
 Curious about this as well.  I have 2 letters from my home program "in", still waiting on a third..and have 2 coming in from my 1st away, and will likely have one from THIS current away rotation. Is it pretty common to turn in more than 4 letters?  I would think many programs would be "annoyed" at that...?  Thx

natabal
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ERAS does not let you submit more than 4 LORs at a time. The only way I can think of adding more would be "un-clicking" and already submitted LOR and substituting for the new one. This in hope that the program coordinator will keep the new one as a 5th one instead of tossing away the one you already had submitted and ending with 4 again....I wouldn't send more than 4 though, especially because they usually suggest 2-3 LORs knowing that people add 3-4 anyways.