Discouraged, Advice anyone?

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I've also heard the advice to

I've also heard the advice to email certain programs if you want an interview there.  A resident at my away said he got 3-4 more interviews by doing this.  However, I was planning on emailing the person listed on eras as the contact person, because it's hard to find the email of the program director and I wouldn't want to bother them.  Do you think this is ok, or the email should be to the program director?

TexasTecher
I heard

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Is there a magic number of interviews that you need to match? Of course there are people who take 20 interviews and don't match and there are also those who take 3 interviews and match. Those are the exceptions.For the normal applicant, what's the "magic number"? I've heard 10, 12, 15, 18. I don't know what to believe.
 I was told 12-13 by two PDs at 2 very different programs
At my previous Sub-I a former program director (now on staff at this program) told me that it seems those who get 10+ interviews have a 90%+ chance of matching.  Of course, I knew a resident at two different places (2 different aways) who got plenty of interviews and didn't match the first time around, so take that with a grain of salt.In the end, it's simply not up to us.  We've done what we could do, and have to have a bit of faith that it'll work out however it's supposed to.  Easier said than done, of course, as I still check my email and UroMatch about 10 times per hour :-P

Anonymous (not verified)
Only 10 times an hour?

TexasTecher wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Is there a magic number of interviews that you need to match? Of course there are people who take 20 interviews and don't match and there are also those who take 3 interviews and match. Those are the exceptions.For the normal applicant, what's the "magic number"? I've heard 10, 12, 15, 18. I don't know what to believe.
Checking email/urologymatch ONLY 10 times an hour? hahaI was told 12-13 by two PDs at 2 very different programs
At my previous Sub-I a former program director (now on staff at this program) told me that it seems those who get 10+ interviews have a 90%+ chance of matching.  Of course, I knew a resident at two different places (2 different aways) who got plenty of interviews and didn't match the first time around, so take that with a grain of salt.In the end, it's simply not up to us.  We've done what we could do, and have to have a bit of faith that it'll work out however it's supposed to.  Easier said than done, of course, as I still check my email and UroMatch about 10 times per hour :-P

Anonymous (not verified)
Chair vouching this early?

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It is not unheard of to have the dean of your med school of the chair of  your home dept to "make a call" on your behalf to appeal for an interview as well as the candidate writing a personal letter to the program director expressing the virtues of the desired program and why they would be a good fit.  At my med school they recommend doing this selectively for only your top 1-3 choices if you are hard up on interviews.  If you can get up to 10 interviews total your chances of matching approach 90-100% is what I hear thrown around.  You are half way there and these next weeks are the busiest in terms of offers.  Others who have been offered interviews will have to make some cancellations as well and this could shake things up a bit.  I do think it would be reasonable to write to some of the ones you have not heard from and ask to be on the wait list, if there is one, and say that you are really interested in the program...or to seek advice from a current chief/senior resident on etiquette at that program for expressing interest.  It's still early in the game as others have stated. 
What I don't understand is why a chaiman at an applicant's home program would vouch for the applicant before the interview season has even started.  Does the chairman not want to keep the applicant at his/her own program or are they more concerned with having more med students match from the home program to improve the standing of the school?  It just seems a little odd but I guess it's true.

Anonymous (not verified)
many med schools have more

many med schools have more applicants in uro than they can keep at the institution and it always reflects well on a med school to send quality residents out.  chairs are partly motivated by keeping good applicants but they also seem genuinely interested in supporting students as demonstrated by writing LoRs.  do agree its tricky territory but i tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Anonymous (not verified)
More students matching..

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
It is not unheard of to have the dean of your med school of the chair of  your home dept to "make a call" on your behalf to appeal for an interview as well as the candidate writing a personal letter to the program director expressing the virtues of the desired program and why they would be a good fit.  At my med school they recommend doing this selectively for only your top 1-3 choices if you are hard up on interviews.  If you can get up to 10 interviews total your chances of matching approach 90-100% is what I hear thrown around.  You are half way there and these next weeks are the busiest in terms of offers.  Others who have been offered interviews will have to make some cancellations as well and this could shake things up a bit.  I do think it would be reasonable to write to some of the ones you have not heard from and ask to be on the wait list, if there is one, and say that you are really interested in the program...or to seek advice from a current chief/senior resident on etiquette at that program for expressing interest.  It's still early in the game as others have stated. 
What I don't understand is why a chaiman at an applicant's home program would vouch for the applicant before the interview season has even started.  Does the chairman not want to keep the applicant at his/her own program or are they more concerned with having more med students match from the home program to improve the standing of the school?  It just seems a little odd but I guess it's true.
 My home program only has 2 spots.  There are A LOT more than 2 people from my school applying to Urology.  They've been mentoring most of us for at least a year now.  They want us to match in Urology.  I don't think it's a selfish goal of passing the applicant off to another program or improving the school's standing.  Most PDs/Chairs (or at least the good ones) will promote their own students to other programs even if it means losing a good potential resident.  At least, I would hope so, since everybody has at least 1-2 LORs from their home program.  That is by definition promoting a student to another program... 

Anonymous (not verified)
stick to the topic at hand

if anyone has a new topic they have a question about, can they please post a new topic in the forum instead?  the original poster and people with similar questions/situations would like to hear what others have to say about the original post.   this forum topic has now changed to home PDs promoting their students to other programs – it has nothing to do with the original post.   as someone who is in the shoes of the original poster (and I am sure that there are many others out there like that), can we please stick to the topic?  greatly appreciate it and hope everyone is having better luck than I am with the whole application and interview process!