What to do if you don't match?

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Cuchicou
What to do if you don't match?

First and foremost, congrats to all those who matched!  However, there are a few of us who weren't lucky enough to match.  What would you guys recommend as far as different options?Thanks!

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Rowan university is opening a

Rowan university is opening a new med school in NJ & starting their first uro residency class this year; they're accepting apps for the next week or so, the link is on the aua website on the vacancies page.fee  That was going to be my backup option if I didn't match.  Good luck to you!

crbson1
Here is my two cents...having

Here is my two cents...having been in your position just last year I know what you are going through, to be blunt the feeling sucks, but now you have to decide #1 is Urology ultimately what you want to do, this was the case for me, there was nothing else in the world that i wanted to or thought that I could be happier with than Urology.  If Urology will continue to be what you want to do, do not let this deter you from pursuing this career path, because you CAN still get into Urology and there are a number of routes that people take.  Number one decision is Research or Prelim Surgery.  My bias is Prelim surgery, that is what i did, when I found out that i did not match I starting putting out my application (using the exact same letters, personal statement, etc from urology) send it to preliminary programs.  One thing i did was called the programs that I was interested in and made absolutely sure that it was possible to do a month or so on the Urology service there are plenty of places that will allow this, just ask.  this is important for two reasons: #1 to expose yourself to a new program, work your butt off, go to conferences, do research, and impress that program, also important to get NEW letters of recommendation.  It is possible to do research during your intern year (especially with the work hour changes) this will help add to your application.  Because honestly, there is not much that is going to change in your application for next year, other than new letters, and any research stuff, and obviously your experience as an intern in gaining surgical skills.  Your drive to succeed and to your motivation to be a great Urologist will grow and your great desire to be a urologist will come across when you go back to interview next year.  The intern year is good, you'll get skills surgically and you won't separate yourself from the medical arena too much.  This was my fear in doing a year of research, I know i would get papers published, but i did not feel comfortable in being away from the craft of medicine for that long.  I know people who have been successful in both routes doing research and doing prelim years, its really a personal decision that you have to make.  If research is what you want I know that Henry Ford has a 2 year (pre-urology program) that provides research and also the ability to do clinical stuff and you even take urology call, but it's a two year commitment,but something to look into. I know there were 4 unmatched spots this year...get on the horn now, doesn't matter where it is, if you want to be a urologist at the end of the day, seek out these spots, because no matter where you go, you are going to get trained, and will be a board certified urologist at the end, which is the goal.  It is possible to get into Urology after not matching, do not fret, look at this a bump in the road, if you truly want it you can achieve your goals, it's just going to take work, effort, and perseverance!  Good luck in whatever you decide, i hope this helps

Anonymous (not verified)
Urology Research Opportunity

 Robotics Research Fellowship at Children's Hospital Boston, Harvard,Department of UrologyAbout 1 year. Funded.Flexible start time (March/April/May 2012). The earlier you start the better for the next application season. You can network and produce more for your file. Adult and Peds exposure, either will help tremendously with getting into urology.The robotics research fellowship offers a well-rounded and in-depth exposure to both translational and clinical urologic research as well as the opportunity to coordinate the robotics research and training center. With the only da Vinci robot dedicated to research and training in Massachusetts and a full-fledged vivarium and animal surgical facility, this is a unique environment to innovate and discover new robotic surgical applications using animal models. The fellow will also be trained to serve as a certified da Vinci robotics training specialist, hosting live, animal training sessions for visiting surgeons.Other additional opportunities include industry/biotech collaborations, NIH grant and protocol writing, journal publication, clinical research IRB processes, funding proposals, and pediatric grand rounds/radiology conferences weekly.If you are looking for a phenomenal educational opportunity as well as the chance to improve your residency application, please contact, Dr. Hiep T. Nguyen, Assistant Professor in Surgery (Urology), Harvard Medical School, and Director of Robotic Surgery and Research, at:hiep.nguyen@childrens.harvard.edu for more information.Please include your CV and a short paragraph statement regarding your goals and interest in urologic research. 

Anonymous (not verified)
Unfilled spots

Does anyone know which spots did not fill this year?  Thanks

Anonymous (not verified)
for

for someone who is really open to going anywhere, what is your advice about where to go to do research year or prelim surgery to get exposure to the urology program? many attendings have research but how do you pick who to work with? should i be looking to do prelim surg year at somewhere with a very well know urology program? or should i do prelim surg at my home program which is not as well known? i'm concerned that since i already didn't match at my home program, would they be less inclined to rank me for next year as well?

shechem
i know this comment is for unmatched applicanst, but

crbson1 wrote:
Here is my two cents...having been in your position just last year I know what you are going through, to be blunt the feeling sucks, but now you have to decide #1 is Urology ultimately what you want to do, this was the case for me, there was nothing else in the world that i wanted to or thought that I could be happier with than Urology.  If Urology will continue to be what you want to do, do not let this deter you from pursuing this career path, because you CAN still get into Urology and there are a number of routes that people take.  Number one decision is Research or Prelim Surgery.  My bias is Prelim surgery, that is what i did, when I found out that i did not match I starting putting out my application (using the exact same letters, personal statement, etc from urology) send it to preliminary programs.  One thing i did was called the programs that I was interested in and made absolutely sure that it was possible to do a month or so on the Urology service there are plenty of places that will allow this, just ask.  this is important for two reasons: #1 to expose yourself to a new program, work your butt off, go to conferences, do research, and impress that program, also important to get NEW letters of recommendation.  It is possible to do research during your intern year (especially with the work hour changes) this will help add to your application.  Because honestly, there is not much that is going to change in your application for next year, other than new letters, and any research stuff, and obviously your experience as an intern in gaining surgical skills.  Your drive to succeed and to your motivation to be a great Urologist will grow and your great desire to be a urologist will come across when you go back to interview next year.  The intern year is good, you'll get skills surgically and you won't separate yourself from the medical arena too much.  This was my fear in doing a year of research, I know i would get papers published, but i did not feel comfortable in being away from the craft of medicine for that long.  I know people who have been successful in both routes doing research and doing prelim years, its really a personal decision that you have to make.  If research is what you want I know that Henry Ford has a 2 year (pre-urology program) that provides research and also the ability to do clinical stuff and you even take urology call, but it's a two year commitment,but something to look into. I know there were 4 unmatched spots this year...get on the horn now, doesn't matter where it is, if you want to be a urologist at the end of the day, seek out these spots, because no matter where you go, you are going to get trained, and will be a board certified urologist at the end, which is the goal.  It is possible to get into Urology after not matching, do not fret, look at this a bump in the road, if you truly want it you can achieve your goals, it's just going to take work, effort, and perseverance!  Good luck in whatever you decide, i hope this helps
 Thanks for your comment. Does this advice apply to people whose stats are not good enough to apply to urology program?I am pretty sure that I won't get in with my current stat without some significant improvement in my application, so I was thinking about applying to prelim surgery positions with the plan of pursuing urology in the future.  

Anonymous (not verified)
Wake Forest

Hard to imagine why Wake didn't match one this year.  I have a friend in general surgery at the hospital.  4 attendings left over the past 2 years, residents miserable, 6 years, etc. Would look closely at this program if considering.

Anonymous (not verified)
Wake Forest University

Anonymous User wrote:
Hard to imagine why Wake didn't match one this year.  I have a friend in general surgery at the hospital.  4 attendings left over the past 2 years, residents miserable, 6 years, etc. Would look closely at this program if considering.
While this post certainly contains some factual information, it is clearly generated by an individual that has some beef to pick with the program.  I mean come on... do you expect anyone to believe that a friend of a friend told you that our program has issues and that you would then feel so compelled to write a post on this forum warning all others of the potential dangers of coming to Wake Forest.  You should be ashamed of posting such slander without presenting all of the facts.Fact: I am a current resident at Wake and certainly have my finger on the pulse of this situation. Fact: 4 attendings have left over the past several years for a variety of reasons.  I have kept in touch with all of them.  They all left for PERSONAL reasons and not due to malcontent.  In respect of these individuals, I will not divuldge any additional information.Fact: 4 attendings have been hired over the past several years to replace the ones that have left.  There is a continuous line of recruits coming through here weekly looking for jobs.  I could end my chief year today and go into practice tomorrow because I have done so many freaking cases.Fact: Not ALL the residents are miserable, in fact, most of the residents are quite happy!  Certain residents are miserable at baseline but I do not think this is a reflection on our program as they might have been miserable prior to arriving here.Fact: Our program is 6 years... who cares???? In the big picture, does one extra year really matter?  For some people it might, but for me its really not a big deal.I KNOW we have an excellent program with supreme leadership.  Although we lost some attendings, they have been replaced without missing a beat and we continue to get superb training.  We have never not matched before but at the same rate, great applicants go unmatched every year as well.  Come visit us at Wake Forest so you can see for yourself the type of training you will receive.  I have made it nearly 5 years and would do it over again tomorrow. 

LBCH Research
A urology research position

A urology research position is an excellent way to strengthen your credentials, build your CV, set you apart from other applicants, and make you more competitive for the match.  The fully-funded research fellowship position in pediatric urology at LeBonheur Children's Hospital in Memphis was just posted on the Discussions forum, and this position is ideal for medical students or recent graduates who wish to pursue a urology residency position but desire to strengthen their position in the match process.

Anonymous (not verified)
Question to those who didn't

Question to those who didn't match and did a prelim year.  I have heard that programs will not even look at your application if you are a reapplicant and you get black listed. Is this true? It was a huge expense to apply and I don't want to spend money on applications next year if that is something that happens regularly. Just wanted to hear some various opinions