Prelim year vs. transitional year

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shechem
Prelim year vs. transitional year

This is a current 3rd year med student who needs some improvement in application.  I am leaning towards doing prelim surgery or transitional year and apply the following year. I know prelim surgery is useful, except it's very intense and leave some people completely burned out.  Did anybody do Transitional year?I know many people in transitional year go into ortho and radiology, but I have never heard of anyone pursuing urology.Please let me know if anybody did this.I will be forever grateful if you can email me at allformary@gmail.com

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payme2p
The problem with a

The problem with a transitional year is that if a PGY-2 position in urology (Uro-1) becomes available during your internship, you will not qualify for it.  Residents joining a urology residency in the second year must have completed a General Surgery internship.

Anonymous00123
I have to say that, having

I have to say that, having just gone through the match and thinking that I was a "subpar" candidate who ended up at a top-tier program, you need to evaluate why you think you need to improve your application.  I think it is drastic to go directly into a prelim or transitional year without even going for the urology match.  The problem with urology is that the AUA does not post stats, and people vastly overestimate what the "average" applicant is.  So you may think that you are not a good applicant, but this is probably not the case.I would recommend busting your chops 3rd year, get to know your Uro department, carefully select an away rotation (or 2) that has a well-known chairman whose letter will have impact, and apply broadly.  I don't know your circumstances, but don't count yourself out.

shechem
thank you

Thank you for those of you who replied to my post.  Because I took my board in late October in 2011, I don't have time to do aways.  (I will be done with the 3rd year in October).  I am essentially three months behind compared to my classmates. I can still graduate on time with no vacation time, but I won't have any time to do aways.  I think no aways means no matching this year.  That's why I thought about going into prelim or transitional year.I am asking anybody who is willing to give me some helpful advice.  I don't know what to do in my situation. Thank you.So did anybody do transitional year to get into urology?? I can't seem to find anyone. If you (author of the quoted post) don't mind, can I please email you with some questions?? 

Anonymous00123 wrote:
having just gone through the match and thinking that I was a "subpar" candidate who ended up at a top-tier program, you need to evaluate why you think you need to improve your application.  I think it is drastic to go directly into a prelim or transitional year without even going for the urology match.  The problem with urology is that the AUA does not post stats, and people vastly overestimate what the "average" applicant is.  So you may think that you are not a good applicant, but this is probably not the case.I would recommend busting your chops 3rd year, get to know your Uro department, carefully select an away rotation (or 2) that has a well-known chairman whose letter will have impact, and apply broadly.  I don't know your circumstances, but don't count yourself out.

Anonymous (not verified)
Transitional Year

If you are deciding between the two, definitely do a general surgery year. The transitional year will do nothing for you in terms of your urology career (you need a general surgery year prior to starting urology), and is known to be much easier than a general surgery year so it will not strengthen your application as much as strong letters from surgery faculty in a general surgery program. You will gain invaluable experience to bring with you on your interviews, and may luck out and find a second year spot. The transitional year was made for nonsurgical programs and ophthalmology. As far as I know all other subspecialties: ortho, ENT, urology, neurosurg, plastics are either integrated or require a general surgery year.

Anonymous (not verified)
You do not have to do aways

You do not have to do aways to match in urology, if you're home institution if pretty decent. I did zero aways and matched at my number 1 choice.Definitely do not do a transition year. You are basically an MS-V, with little autonomy since you don't work with the same people enough to build trust. I'm concerned about your attitude that a prelim year is too intense. Yes, it is hard work, but many times it is much easier than your urology junior residency. That is definitely the case at my intitution. You need the skills by the time you reach your uro years.Urology is not a lifestyle specialty during your residency. That's why folks don't do transition years.

shechem
Thank you so much

Thank you so much for everybody who replied to my post.  I am very thankful.  I called some TY programs and found out that they are not really for urology residency.