ohio state lawsuit

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ohio state lawsuit

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102192685recent news out of ohio state.  

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Anonymous (not verified)
Wow

Holy balls... This is nucking futs 

Anonymous (not verified)
interesting reading

Read the court filing. Crazy details about what the culture is like there. This does fit with rumors about the program, but the details are even worse than expected. 

Anonymous (not verified)
I would not apply here.

I read the entire court document from start to finish and there are really bad things going on there.  Your best bet is to mitigate your risk by keeping away from the contoversy.  There are plenty of other programs and many that are stellar compared to what Ohio State has to offer.  This is really sad news because those applying this year will have to cross off a historically strong program from their list. You DON'T want to match there and deal with the turmoil.  Not worth it - for your sanity or your longterm careers.

Anonymous (not verified)
know how to use employment rights to protect your livlihood

http://residentblonde2014.wordpress.comNot everyone is going to have the advantage of being a graduated resident when faced with threats to their livlihood. It is important for all residents to understand what they need to do to proactively protect their livlihood during residency training. It is important for new residents to appreciate that as a solidified group, we can create a work culture change for the better to meet 21st century standards of professionalism.

Anonymous (not verified)
As a current resident at Ohio

As a current resident at Ohio State, I would caution you that many of the situations described are, shall we say, embellished to provoke a certain response. The reputation we have is not groundless, but it isn't completely accurate. That said, I certainly understand any reservations and concerns you guys would have. I would have them too, in your position. I do, however, want to say that the position this place is in is really rather unique. Typically when a Chairman leaves, there is a lot of uncertainty and faction fighting, and parts of the department go with the old Chair and so on. None of that is true here - there are a lot of active faculty that get along well with no particular axes to grind. I know that you guys no doubt have a horrific vision of how ghastly this place is, but actually, most of us find it rather collegial. And honestly, morale around here is pretty high given recent events.I totally understand the uncertainty and concern applicants would have. There are so many great programs - why run the risk? However, I am not really concerned about this place, nor am I concerned about the match. All of you guys are amazing applicants, and I have no doubt we're going to match 3 great people this year, just as we have every year I've seen. Good luck, and I hope to see some of you despite your reservations.

Anonymous (not verified)
COI

Anonymous User wrote:
As a current resident at Ohio State, I would caution you that many of the situations described are, shall we say, embellished to provoke a certain response. The reputation we have is not groundless, but it isn't completely accurate. That said, I certainly understand any reservations and concerns you guys would have. I would have them too, in your position. I do, however, want to say that the position this place is in is really rather unique. Typically when a Chairman leaves, there is a lot of uncertainty and faction fighting, and parts of the department go with the old Chair and so on. None of that is true here - there are a lot of active faculty that get along well with no particular axes to grind. I know that you guys no doubt have a horrific vision of how ghastly this place is, but actually, most of us find it rather collegial. And honestly, morale around here is pretty high given recent events.I totally understand the uncertainty and concern applicants would have. There are so many great programs - why run the risk? However, I am not really concerned about this place, nor am I concerned about the match. All of you guys are amazing applicants, and I have no doubt we're going to match 3 great people this year, just as we have every year I've seen. Good luck, and I hope to see some of you despite your reservations.
 While it's nice to hear a different side of the story - it's hard to give a lot of credence to what you're saying as you have a clear conflict of interest. If I were a resident at OSU right now, I would be terrified that this news would ruin this years (if not future years) match prospects for that institution. As an attending/fellow/resident there, I might also try to paint a rosier picture of the situation to attempt to improve the general perception among applicants.  Unfortunately, residency applicants are at a disadvantaged position. Because of this alarming news, I suspect most will choose to play it safe and lower OSU on their rank list. There's no way to REALLY know from an unbiased source what the situation there is and will be. 

Anonymous (not verified)
My concern is for you guys, not us.

Anonymous User wrote:
While it's nice to hear a different side of the story - it's hard to give a lot of credence to what you're saying as you have a clear conflict of interest. If I were a resident at OSU right now, I would be terrified that this news would ruin this years (if not future years) match prospects for that institution. As an attending/fellow/resident there, I might also try to paint a rosier picture of the situation to attempt to improve the general perception among applicants.  Unfortunately, residency applicants are at a disadvantaged position. Because of this alarming news, I suspect most will choose to play it safe and lower OSU on their rank list. There's no way to REALLY know from an unbiased source what the situation there is and will be. 
 I do understand having reservations. But I don't really have to be terrified about our match prospects, nor do I really have to defend the place. I'm in a great position with a bunch of people I like, and getting training that I know compares well with anywhere in the country. I know those we match will be able to say the same, just as I hope all of you ultimately are able to say the same as well. I just don't want too many of you to unnecessarily limit your opportunities based on incorrect perceptions. 

Anonymous (not verified)
COI

Anonymous User wrote:
 While it's nice to hear a different side of the story - it's hard to give a lot of credence to what you're saying as you have a clear conflict of interest. If I were a resident at OSU right now, I would be terrified that this news would ruin this years (if not future years) match prospects for that institution. As an attending/fellow/resident there, I might also try to paint a rosier picture of the situation to attempt to improve the general perception among applicants.  Unfortunately, residency applicants are at a disadvantaged position. Because of this alarming news, I suspect most will choose to play it safe and lower OSU on their rank list. There's no way to REALLY know from an unbiased source what the situation there is and will be. 
 I finished residency a few years ago (life really does get better) and I read the whole court brief as well (which is a document written by a disgruntled ex-resident's brother who happens to be a lawyer that is trying to paint OSU in the worst possible light). Its tough to tell what the situation is there, why would a graduating chief in a program with such a harsh chairman take the last day of work off? Your residency ends when it ends. Why would the co-Chief's lie to cover this up? What's the big deal with paternity leave? At my residency we got 48 hrs of paternity leave IF you could find someone to cover. If you miss more than 4 weeks in any given year, you have to make up time at the end per the the ABU's rule. I am undecided as to who is right here, even though I know if sounds like I am taking OSU's side. Bahnson sounds like a jerk, but I would hope any graduating Chief's had picked up on that already and not rocked the boat at the end. The goal of the filing may have simply been drawing light to the situation.

Anonymous (not verified)
Who will the chair be?

Who will the chair be?

Anonymous (not verified)
this is nothing less than appalling

so its acceptable for him to jeapordize the graduated chief residents days before they are scheduled to take the board exam? without warning, without response? if indeed true- that alone is enough evidence for me to conclude something isn't right there. Why would a program purposefully jeapordize their own graduated chief residents? even if they missed the last day of work? So the previous 5 years of work suddenly means nothing?  I question the philosophy of a program that graduates chief residents only to screw them over as they attempt to move on with their career beyond residency.  - proud University of Chicago alum