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New Chair

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Who will the chair be?
There will be a nationwide search and it will almost certainly come from outside our department. There have been several signals of interest, because honestly this is a pretty golden opportunity for an incoming chair.

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I also read through the

I also read through the entire brief. The former resident has many reasons to be disgruntled! Who would be happy about being treated like this? The sheer number of examples of unprofessionalism and maliciousness by Bahnson is shocking. And clearly the tipping point of the filing was Bahnson's attempt to mess with their ability to take the boards, and thus mess with their careers. 

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 [/quote] I finished residency a few years ago (life really does get better) and I read the whole court brief as well (which is a document written by a disgruntled ex-resident's brother who happens to be a lawyer that is trying to paint OSU in the worst possible light). Its tough to tell what the situation is there, why would a graduating chief in a program with such a harsh chairman take the last day of work off? Your residency ends when it ends. Why would the co-Chief's lie to cover this up? What's the big deal with paternity leave? At my residency we got 48 hrs of paternity leave IF you could find someone to cover. If you miss more than 4 weeks in any given year, you have to make up time at the end per the the ABU's rule. I am undecided as to who is right here, even though I know if sounds like I am taking OSU's side. Bahnson sounds like a jerk, but I would hope any graduating Chief's had picked up on that already and not rocked the boat at the end. The goal of the filing may have simply been drawing light to the situation.[/quote] The big deal with paternity leave is that it is protected under federal law.  What does that say about professional ethics when your Chairman so flippantly violates these statutes?   There is clear understanding amongst all residency programs that if one requires extended paternal leave or FMLA leave that prevents one from fulfilling graduation requirements that the leave time must be made up.  Almost every other residency program in the US functions fine with these restrictions.  Why is it so hard for this particular program to simply do the right thing, and follow the rules?

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absolutely shocking

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 While it's nice to hear a different side of the story - it's hard to give a lot of credence to what you're saying as you have a clear conflict of interest. If I were a resident at OSU right now, I would be terrified that this news would ruin this years (if not future years) match prospects for that institution. As an attending/fellow/resident there, I might also try to paint a rosier picture of the situation to attempt to improve the general perception among applicants.  Unfortunately, residency applicants are at a disadvantaged position. Because of this alarming news, I suspect most will choose to play it safe and lower OSU on their rank list. There's no way to REALLY know from an unbiased source what the situation there is and will be. 
 I finished residency a few years ago (life really does get better) and I read the whole court brief as well (which is a document written by a disgruntled ex-resident's brother who happens to be a lawyer that is trying to paint OSU in the worst possible light). Its tough to tell what the situation is there, why would a graduating chief in a program with such a harsh chairman take the last day of work off? Your residency ends when it ends. Why would the co-Chief's lie to cover this up? What's the big deal with paternity leave? At my residency we got 48 hrs of paternity leave IF you could find someone to cover. If you miss more than 4 weeks in any given year, you have to make up time at the end per the the ABU's rule. I am undecided as to who is right here, even though I know if sounds like I am taking OSU's side. Bahnson sounds like a jerk, but I would hope any graduating Chief's had picked up on that already and not rocked the boat at the end. The goal of the filing may have simply been drawing light to the situation.
 I think the graduating chief had to take the last day of work off because it was June 30th and he had to move his family to Utah or something and start work at his new job on the following day, July 1st. For that reason it is almost universal that graduating chiefs are informally given the last few days of June off. really? you think 48 hrs max paternity leave contingent upon coverage is an acceptable status quo because that's the way it was for you? what would your wife say about that?

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are you kidding me?

[quote] I am undecided as to who is right here, even though I know if sounds like I am taking OSU's side. [quote] Ya its a tough call... quite a toss up... could go either way...

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confused

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Who will the chair be?
There will be a nationwide search and it will almost certainly come from outside our department. There have been several signals of interest, because honestly this is a pretty golden opportunity for an incoming chair.
golden opportunity? Im sorry, but this is a disaster.Even if it is embellished, this is extremely far off the map from what urology is like anywhere else. The fact that things are generally not like this is a big part of why so many of us have gone into the specialty. 

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The ABU requires 46 weeks of residency education per year, or put another way you may have 6 weeks of unaccounted time each year (not 4 weeks as a previous poster put down) and still recieve certification.